Friday, September 18, 2009

Out Of The Pan And Into The Fire

Scott and I received the following letter in the mail today, addressed to our store but unsigned and with no return address. One has to wonder why they addressed this to us. Was it because they knew the letter wouldn't fall on deaf ears? The letter rings eerily true with the posts I've been writing lately about what's fundamentally wrong at Webster's Shopping Center. Please take a moment to read this letter, then scan back and peruse my posts of the past several months. Letter follows:

" LETTER FROM DISSATISFIED CUSTOMER 9/18/09


WEBSTER’S

PHARMACY
FINE STATIONERS
HALLMARK STORE



TO THE OWNERS OF THE PHARMACY, FINE STATIONERS, AND HALLMARK STORE,

I HAVE BEEN A CUSTOMER OF WEBSTER’S, IN ALL ITS PERMUTATIONS, FOR OVER 50 YEARS. I CHOSE TO SHOP WITH YOU BECAUSE I WANTED TO KEEP MY DOLLARS IN THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT YOU. I DON’T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE LARGE CHAIN STORES, AND PREFER THE CONVENIENCE OF SHOPPING WITH YOU, EVEN IF I SPEND A LITTLE MORE. IT WAS WORTH IT TO ME TO KEEP MY BUSINESS IN THE AREA WHERE I LIVE.

AFTER OVER 50 YEARS, I DON’T SHOP WITH YOU ANYMORE, AND FROM THE LOOKS OF YOUR PARKING LOT, I DON’T THINK A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE DO EITHER. YOU COULD CHALK IT UP TO THE ECONOMY, BUT THE REASONS I DISCONTINUED FILLING MY PRESCRIPTIONS AND BUYING CARDS AND GIFTS WITH YOU GO WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ECONOMY. IT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR COMPLETE LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.

RECENTLY, I’VE EXPERIENCED AN APPALLING LACK OF SERVICE IN YOUR PHARMACY. MY DOCTOR’S OFFICE HAS CALLED IN PRESCRIPTIONS THAT DON’T GET FILLED CORRECTLY. IN ONE CASE, THE PRESCRIPTION CLEARLY CALLED OUT THAT GENERICS COULD NOT BE SUBSTITUTED. YOUR PHARMACIST WENT AHEAD AND FILLED THE PRESCRIPTION WITH A GENERIC WITHOUT CALLING MY PHYSICIAN OR ME. I DISCOVERED THIS ABNORMALITY WHEN I PICKED UP THE PRESCRIPTION.

WHEN I BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PHARMACIST, I DIDN’T EVEN GET SO MUCH AS AN APOLOGY. AFTER 50 YEARS OF DOING BUSINESS WITH YOU, (AND WE SPEND SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH IN PRESCRIPTIONS AND OTC), IT IS THE LAST PRESCRIPTION I WILL EVER FILL WITH YOU. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I’VE TRIED TO REFILL PRESCRIPTIONS VIA YOUR PHONE SERVICE RECEIVED A VERIFICATION VIA PHONE THAT THE ORDER WAS CONFIRMED, RECEIVED A PICK-UP TIME AND DATE ONLY TO SHOW UP AT THE COUNTER AND BEEN TOLD THAT YOU DON’T HAVE THE MEDICATION ON HAND, AND IT WON’T BE AVAILABLE FOR A DAY OR TWO. AND NEVER ONCE DID YOU, OR ANYONE IN YOUR ORGANIZATION, PICK UP THE PHONE TO ALERT ME TO THIS. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOUR COMPETITORS ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CALL ME AND KEEP ME INFORMED OF MY PRESCRIPTIONS’ PROGRESS, SO I WILL BE SPENDING MY PHARMACEUTICAL MONIES ELSEWHERE.

I RECENTLY VENTURED INTO YOUR PHARMACY LOOKING FOR A SKIN CARE PRODUCT YOU HAVE CARRIED FOR YEARS. I COULDN'T FIND IT. I WAS THE ONLY CUSTOMER IN THE PHARMACY. THE ONLY ONE! AND THERE WERE TWO LADIES BEHIND THE COUNTER, LEANING UP AGAINST THE WALL. I ASKED THE OLDER LADY WHO HAS BEEN WITH YOU FOR YEARS IF YOU CARRIED THIS PRODUCT. SHE JUST POINTED DOWN THE AISLE TO ME. SO I HUNTED, AND HUNTED, AND STILL DIDN’T FIND IT. SHE COULDN'T BE BOTHERED TO HELP. SHE WAS TOO BUSY STANDING BEHIND THE COUNTER DOING NOTHING. ON MY WAY OUT, I SAW THE PRODUCT, BUT BY THAT TIME, I DECIDED THAT YOU DON’T DESERVE MY MONEY. I WENT TO CALIFORNIA PHARMACY, HAD A GRACIOUS LADY HELP ME, PURCHASED WHAT I WENT IN FOR AND SOME OTHER ITEMS, AND LEFT AS A HAPPY CUSTOMER. TELL ME, DO YOU HIRE YOUR CLERKS TO LOAF BEHIND THE COUNTER, OR TO HELP CUSTOMERS? IF IT IS THE LATTER, YOU ARE PAYING GREATLY FOR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE HURTING, NOT HELPING, YOUR BUSINESS.

THE HALLMARK STORE IS NOT EXEMPT FROM THIS LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE. I ONCE ROUTINELY SPENT AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF $100.O0 A MONTH IN YOUR STORE FOR CARDS, STATIONERY, GIFT WRAP, GIFTS, TOYS, ETC. I VENTURED IN A FEW WEEKS AGO LOOKING FOR TWO BIRTHDAY CARDS, SOME TABLE FAVORS, GIFT WRAP AND RIBBON, INVITATIONS, TWO GIFTS AND STICKERS. AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE CARDS, TWO THINGS HAPPENED.

1. A VERY ELDERLY LADY WALKED INTO THE CARD SECTION. SHE WAS LOOKING FOR A CARD THAT SAID, “BEST WISHES FOR YOUR 90TH BIRTHDAY”. SHE WAS HOPING SHE COULD FIND ONE, BUT IF NOT, SHE WANTED SOMETHING VERY TRADITIONAL AND PRETTY. THE YOUNG LADIES BEHIND THE COUNTER COULDN’T BE BOTHERED TO HELP HER. THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT HAVING TO CLEAN UP AND CLOSE OUT. I HELPED YOUR CUSTOMER FIND A PRETTY CARD, AND HELPED HER TO THE CHECKOUT COUNTER WHERE SHE MADE HER PURCHASE. INCIDENTALLY, THIS CARD FOR A NINETY-YEAR-OLD WAS FOR HER YOUNGER SISTER. THIS CUSTOMER WAS AT LEAST 91 YEARS OLD, AND YOUR YOUNG, HEALTHY, ROBUST CLERKS COULD NOT LIFT A FINGER TO ASSIST HER.

2. WHILE THE ELDERLY LADY WAS SHOPPING, A FRAZZLED CUSTOMER ENTERED FROM LAKE AVENUE. SHE WAS LOOKING FOR A WALKER FOR HER MOTHER WHO JUST RETURNED FROM THE HOSPITAL. SHE LOOKED UP AND DOWN THE HALLMARK STORE AISLES, UNATTENDED AND UNAIDED BY YOUR EMPLOYEES. I FINALLY STEPPED IN, AFTER ASSISTING THE ELDERLY LADY WITH HER CARD PURCHASE, AND TOLD HER THAT I BELIEVE THE WALKERS CAN BE FOUND TWO DOORS UP IN THE PHARMACY. SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD CALLED IN ADVANCE, AND NO ONE TOLD HER WHAT DOOR TO GO TO, OR THE DIFFERENCES IN THE STORES. YOUR CLERKS, IN FACT, LOOKED AT HER BLANKLY, AND TOLD HER THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHERE SHE COULD FIND WALKERS! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?

SO I SAVED YOU TWO SALES AND TWO CUSTOMERS’ ONE CARD SALE IN THE HALLMARK STORE AND THE ONE WALKER SALE IN THE PHARMACY. I, HOWEVER, DID NOT MAKE A PURCHASE THAT DAY. I WAS SO DISGUSTED WITH THE ENTIRE SCENE THAT ON MY WAY HOME FROM WORK THE NEXT DAY I STOPPED AT THE HALLMARK STORE IN LA CANADA. THE FRIENDLY PEOPLE GREETED ME AS I WALKED IN AND ASKED IF I NEEDED HELP. I TOLD THEM WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, AND THEY SHOWED ME EVERYTHING I NEEDED, AND MORE! I WALKED OUT OF THERE THAT DAY FINDING ALL I WANTED, AND PAID $437.35. THAT IS $437.35 THAT DID NOT GO TO YOU. I NOW DO ALL MY HALLMARK AND GIFT SHOPPING IN LA CANADA AT THAT STORE.

THE SAD THING IS THAT I CAN GIVE YOU DOZENS OF EXAMPLES OF WHY I DON’T SHOP WITH YOU ANYMORE. THE TROUBLE IS THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO THINK THE SAME WAY I DO. WE DON’T LIKE THE WALLED IN ATMOSPHERE, (SORRY THE FAMILY BROKE UP THE BUSINESS FOLKS, BUT THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN DEAL WITH KEEPING STOCK AND SALES SEPARATE WHILE KEEPING THE IDEA OF A LARGE SHOPPING CENTER INTACT). NO ONE WANTS TO SHOP IN THE DARK FINE STATIONERS SHOP, AND WE ALL LIKED THE CONVENIENCE OF GETTING OUR PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED AND WALKING AROUND PICKING UP OTHER ITEMS. I LOVED BEING ABLE TO GET SCHOOL SUPPLIES, HALLMARK CARDS, OTC ITEMS, ETC., WITH ONE-STOP SHOPPING. I DON’T LIKE YOUR TOTAL LACK OF CUSTOMER SERVICE, YOUR SHORT-SIGHTED ATTEMPTS AT WALLING IN YOUR SHOPS, YOUR “LET THEM EAT CAKE” ATTITUDE. I HAVE FOUND PLENTY OF OTHER FRIENDLY, HARD-WORKING, ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WELCOME MY BUSINESS.

GO OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW. LOOK AT YOUR PARKING LOT. IT’S EMPTY, RIGHT? I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND A PARKING SPACE IN YOUR LOT DURING THE WEEKEND OR HOLIDAYS. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS YOU WANT, YOU CAN ADVERTISE ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THE CUSTOMERS YOU NEED UNTIL YOU PROVIDE GOOD, FRIENDLY CUSTOMER SERVICE AND HIRE PEOPLE WILLING TO GET OF THEIR BUTTS TO HELP THE CUSTOMERS. AND AS LONG AS YOU KEEP UP THOSE CONFINING WALLS, LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY, THAT DIVIDE YOUR SHOPS AND YOUR FAMILY, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THE CUSTOMER BASE YOU NEED TO SUCCEED.

IT’S NOT JUST THE ECONOMY, FOLKS. IN THIS RECESSION, YOU HAVE TO GIVE BETTER SERVICE TO GET THE CUSTOMERS. YOU DON’T HAVE MY BUSINESS, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE LOST THE BUSINESS OF DOZENS OF OTHER LONG-TIME CUSTOMERS DUE TO YOUR NEGLIGENCE. WAKE UP BEFORE YOUR STORES, AND YOUR NAME, BECOME JUST MORE FOOTNOTES IN ALTADENA’S HISTORY.

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS FEEDBACK FROM A FORMER CUSTOMER WHO TOOK THE TIME TO TELL YOU WHY I WON’T BE COMING BACK UNTIL I HEAR THAT YOU HAVE TURNED YOUR BUSINESS, AND YOUR ATTITUDES, AROUND."

First of all, let me address the person who wrote this letter to the Pharmacy but delivered it to us. Thank you very much for this. Really and truly, thank you. Scott and I been asking for feedback from our customers for two years now, trying to engage everyone in the area. We knew the division of the stores wouldn't be readily accepted without any communication by management to the public. We knew the lack of customer service was a problem with the other stores and this is why we've been such sticklers with the crew here about ours.

But this isn't about which store has better service, because the simple fact of the matter is that the public perceives as as one entity. We can divide it up all we want but we can't change our customers' perception and this is why we advised long ago that we all work together to maintain at least the illusion of our being whole. Sadly, that was ignored. We have to ask why they ignored it, which was, loosely, the basis of my last post.

Ellen Snortland, a customer and friend, had a quote in her writer's workshop series, "Author Bite By Bite" (a wonderful group that can be found on Facebook) that particularly appropriate for what's happening here. It's an old Zen saying that "The gate to enlightenment is guarded by two lions: Confusion and Paradox". How very true that is. How very sad it is that Webster's hasn't been able to get past those two lions to find their way to a clear path. How it pains us to watch this happening without being able to do much about it, other than make sure our own store doesn't fall victim to the same pitfalls.

What I'd like to know now is what effect this letter is going to have on the Pharmacy. Maybe it'll be the catalyst they need to pull it together. It'll take a lot of tough love, but I firmly believe that it can be done. With our help and your help, I believe it can be done. What can you do to help, you ask? Please, please, let us know what you think....without your input we are rudderless. Post here, post on our Facebook Fan Page, write letters, come into the store and talk to us. For months, I've been asking this with little response....c'mon, Altadena, you can be vocal when you want to be!

One last thing to the author of the unsigned letter - we know the lighting in our store needs to be addressed. It's been the same since the 60's and never got updated like the other areas of Webster's. It takes a lot of money to change lighting in a retail store (it's not like buying lamps for your home) and we don't have the money right now. I'm a decorator, so this bugs me every single time I walk into this store but I'll have to be patient. Little by little, our store will become as wonderful as I envision it being but it'll become that vision only with your support. We sincerely hope that we can entice you back as a customer. We promise not to disappoint.

One more little thing. This customer who wrote the letter states that he or she has "been a customer of Webster's, in all its permutations, for 50 years". If they were, then they'd remember when the stores weren't all interconnected. Sometimes the people who patronize a certain store are a bit afraid and resistant to change, too.....just sayin'.

9 comments:

Unknown said...

I am sick that Altadena might lose Webster's. Even when I lived in Pasadena, 7 years ago, I would drive up the hill to Webster's because I refused to go to the big box stores like Staples. I then discovered all the treasures that defined Webster's. While I waited for prescriptions I would peruse the aisles of the stationery store, and the old fashioned vartiety store. I LOVED the store. It defined what I think is missing in today's communities. Webster's carried things that I hadn't been able to find for years. It was so wonderfully old fashioned. Plastic packages of tiny farm animals, every imaginable kind of label and pencil. The best place in the world to take your kid for the new school year's supplies. There was a pos toffice, people hung out, kept up on what was happening in the community. I was the center of Altadena !
If I was lucky, my prescription would take a while, and I could really spend some serious time, and usually, some serious bucks. I always spent way more than I planned, on things I had no intention of trying.

I still support Webster's. The other day, in an effort to teach my kids freedom and independence, I dropped them off at Webster's with five dollars in each of their hands, instructions on buying candy and stuff that I would never buy them, and a map of how to walk home. Where else would I do that, Ralph's ???????

But like many who have posted her, I just don't go to Webster's like I used to. I still go to fill prescriptions. I have experienced no problems with the sales staff, but while I wait for my presciption, I rarely wander next door. Next door is a different store, and I don't NEED stationery goods that day. And since I am not browsing though easily available aisles while I kill time, I don't end up buying unplanned items. And frankly, the stationary store is not the same old fashioned store I so dearly loved. It's more like all the other stores. I don't spend time finding treasures. I can find the goods there pretty much anywhere.

Whenever I describe Altadena to people, I start with Websters. I call it the center of the community. It is diverse, it's the post office, people pay utility bills there, buy wrapping paper, fill prescriptions and VISIT with each other. Or at least they used to. The walls seemed to end all of that. Obviously I have no idea why they decided to do that. I was told the store was divided among the Webster siblings, and the walls made each one a separate entity. But it took the heart out of the warm and wonderful center that was Webster's.

How do we Altadena residents fix this? How do those walls come down, and if they do, can that even save this incredible and valuable institution??????

Unknown said...

mrsron, thank you so much for your comment, we appreciate the feedback.

I'm very sorry that you feel that the walls affected your ability to browse through the different stores. Scott and I know that it wasn't a great idea, but it did allow us the chance to run our store the way we saw fit.

I'd like to invite you back into our store and allow us to show you what we're carrying and what makes us different. I'm afraid I'll have to argue with your comment that you can find what we carry everywhere. We are concentrating on finding things that are unique, ecologically and socially responsible and made in the U.S. We've added lines like Crane & Co. fine stationery that weren't available before. You don't find Crane everywhere, either.

We still carry many home office and school supplies but it is not as extensive as it used to be because we can't compete with the big box store prices. What we carry is for the convenience of our community residents who don't want to drive down the hill and don't mind paying a little more for them. A lot of the stock the old Stationery Dept. used to carry wasn't moving and we had to close them out (after two years, we're still closing them out, so you can see they're not very popular items).

We realize that many people are nostalgic for the "old" Webster's, but people have to realize that times and demographics change. Tastes and economic situations change and we must be able to adapt to those changes or we'll become stagnant. Frankly, that's exactly what was happening to Webster's.

We do value your patronage. We hope that you'll keep shopping with us because the one thing that hasn't changed is our core values. We're still community-oriented and customer service is still our main focus.

Unknown said...

Hi Lori,
I want you to know that I have never stopped shopping at Webster's. My kids and I bought their school supplies there this year, same as they have for the past five years. They don't even know what a big box store looks like.

Yes, the Hallmark store is more upscale now, more like Vroman's. I get it.
I think I am the demographic you are seeking. My husband and I are urban, affluent, and our tastes are contemporary. I sometimes buy Crane, I mainly bought my cards and personal stationery from Lucky Paperie, before THEY closed, sadly. Everything else at Webster's.

But we chose not to move to the Westside and raise our family, we didn't even choose to live in Pasadena. We chose Altadena, precisely for Websters, Altadena Hardware and Foxes, etc. We like the old fashioned atmosphere. So do our friends.

Now that you are changing with the times, is the sought after demographic flocking in?

But I don't think the heart of the problem is with the merchandise, sure, Altadena could use a little updating. It is about those walls !
My husband was in Webster's just today, getting a prescription filled. I asked if he had gone next door, after hearing about what was going on. He said "no, they need to take down those walls, they just keep people from shopping!"

Maybe there is no good solution, (though I thought someone's post about at least putting doors between the stores might be a really great idea !!!!) maybe the little guy just can't win, maybe the big box stores will win in the end.
Maybe it is just not viable economic option anymore in these times. What a shame.
I for one will keep shopping at Webster's until that day comes to pass. It will be a sad day.
I only wish the Webster family the very best, they have been an invaluable part of this remarkable community.

Best,
Terry

Unknown said...

Again I'd like to thank you for caring so much about our stores and leaving valuable input....this is what I'm trying to get people to do. I believe that communication is one of the most important things we can do in a crisis like this.

You're so right, you are the type of customer we're looking for. We're also looking for older and younger customers. lol You see, we really haven't changed all that much....we still carry a wide variety of items that would appeal to different age groups. We have upscaled a bit but not pretentiously so. Our merchandise and prices don't get anywhere near what boutiques in West LA charge....believe me, I know because we live there.

I've done some studying on the demographics in Altadena, and I'm currently enrolled at the Business Builders Boot Camp at the Women's City Club in Pasadena to help me study it more. And yes, we are seeing an uptick in our number of shoppers. It doesn't help me much, though, if the Pharmacy fails and takes us down with it.

I really believe that Scott and I have a great store and the creativity to offer Altadena a shopping venue that is unique but also homey and comfortable. We're also doing it because it's something that we love doing....and why do something that you don't love to do? We are on the right track, it's just those pesky walls that keep getting in the way.

I'm not sure what will happen in regard to the walls, or if they'll consider putting in doors. What we'll do is take all these comments - from here, from Altadenablog and from our Facebook pages - to convince Webster's management that something needs to be done.

We really do appreciate your time and support. I hope you'll stop in sometime and introduce yourself, I'd love to meet you.

Unknown said...

Oh gosh...I'm getting neurotic about this, but I just thought of something as I was looking at the picture collage at the header of our blog.

That collage was put together by the fabulous Kate McKinney shortly after we took over the store two years ago. There are pictures of differnet things we sold then and now....see those brushes? The art pencils? The tubes of paint? The sheets of colored paper? The Tombo brush pens? Those address books? All still here and all still on sale....FOR TWO YEARS!! Oh my God, this stuff they had did NOT sell and I'm still trying to get rid of it. You can't run a store if you carry stuff that doesn't sell. Again, everyone's so nostalgic for the "old" Webster's, without stopping to think that we actually have to sell stuff....a LOT of stuff....to be able to pay our employees, employment taxes, overhead, maintenance, yaddada yaddada.

Sorry for the rant, but that picture is such a perfect example of things that were wrong at Webster's....maybe people liked looking at all the stuff, but it didn't sell that much. Out of all those pictures, only the Hammermill printer paper repeatedly sells. I guess we should've become a museum. : \

Unknown said...

Lori-
On with our two person dialogue.
I get it, I really do. It's all well and good to have a store that everyone appreciates, but no one purchases from.
I think I bought about 30 tubes of acrylic paint that was on sale one day in there. I am an artist, and I will stop by and dig through all the art supplies and see what I can use.
As I sad, I don't think it is the merchandise, it is the walls. If people cold wander into the store while they are waiting for prescriptions, I think a lot more would sell.
But there is a generation of shoppers out there that doesn't remember a world without Office Depot and Target, it is such a sad thing.
Again I wish you all the best, and much success for the wonderful Webster's.
BTW, I have always loved the sales staff at all the stores !
Terry

Unknown said...

Terry,

All I can say is thank you. It's you, and people like you, who are helping to keep us in business. Thank God for all of you!

----Lori

Petrea Burchard said...

It was brave of you to post this letter. And I've got to say a lot of it is true.

I'm one of those Pasadena people who comes up the hill to shop at Webster's. I used to live in Altadena, back when there were no walls, and I fell in love with the place.

My shopping at Webster's has changed for a couple of reasons: Number one, big big big big number one: the dividing walls. It kills the ambiance, it kills the browsing, it kills the light (that light you love, Lori!). If I could browse stationery while I'm waiting for my RX, what money I'd spend!

I've always loved the clerks in the pharmacy and never had the problems the letter writer had. But I don't usually buy my sundries there because the prices are high. And now that my insurance company has changed to an online pharmacy, I buy fewer prescriptions at Websters.

I used to buy gifts and cards in the card shop, but it has become just like any other card shop and lost its unique, "Webster's" personality. There's no need to make a trip up the hill when I can get the same stuff near my house.

I still make the trip up the hill for Webster's Fine Stationers because you and Scott have reached out to me as a customer. Your clerks do this, too. And you've made an effort to reach out in your community, too, with the Arts Commission and other stuff.

The rest of Webster's seems to be resting on its laurels. But laurels are soon forgotten in retail. When customers feel forgotten, or worse, insulted (i.e., the walls), they go elsewhere. At least I do.

Unknown said...

Thank you, Petrea, for giving your views which are insightful, as always.

It seems there is some small progress in our effort to get customer service at Webster's in order, and I'm happy for it. I didn't enjoy posting that letter nor did I enjoy reading about our customers' dissatisfaction with us. I'm not enjoying my in-law's reactions to this, but it was something that had to be done.

Hopefully, the situation will be addressed and some solution reached about the walls soon.